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I normally really like Chuck Jones' work but what he did to Tom and Jerry deserves a spanking.

Not a sexy spanking administered by a strong gym bunny with a crew cut whose touch is hard but firm, but a bare-ass paddling by a hall of drunken fratboys, one of whom will throw up on his back.
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Lago PARANOIA wrote:I normally really like Chuck Jones' work but what he did to Tom and Jerry deserves a spanking.

Not a sexy spanking administered by a strong gym bunny with a crew cut whose touch is hard but firm, but a bare-ass paddling by a hall of drunken fratboys, one of whom will throw up on his back.
Wtf did Chuck jones do to Tom & Jerry? He's ok otherwise but what did he do to deserve fake-bukake?
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You know how people often complain about how Tom really doesn't deserve a lot of the stuff Jerry does to him?

Well, most of the Tom and Jerry cartoons actually follow the rule of 'Jerry can't strike back against Tom unless Tom was being a bastard first or to defend his own life'. The cartoons most likely to break this rule and have Jerry be an enormous bastard are:

- Any of the cartoons involving a mouse character aside from Jerry.
- Almost any cartoon that Chuck Jones did.

The CJ cartoons are in particular really bad about cranking the nastiness of Jerry to the point where it becomes unfunny.

So he deserves a paddling for that.
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Darths and Droids hasn't lost me or anything, I still enjoy the comic and all...

Just, what happened to all of the tabletop RPG jokes/tropes? I know the authors are still thinking about it, they're in the comment section at the bottom, but where are they in the actual comic?

I guess Star Wars just doesn't readily lend itself to bits of game design to mock.
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In short, your entire post is dismissive of not merely my intelligence, but my agency. And I don't mean agency as a player within one of your games, I mean my agency as a person. You do not want me to be informed when I make the fundamental decisions of deciding whether to join your game or buying your rules system.
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I want to see Frank Miller's Dark Knight and Dark Knight 2; and/or Batman Year One turned into movies.

That's what I liked about the most recent Batman movies, they reminded my of Dark Knight and Batman Year One.
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Judging__Eagle wrote:I want to see Frank Miller's Dark Knight and Dark Knight 2; and/or Batman Year One turned into movies.
Interestingly, before Ledger died, he and Bale had shaken hands on an informal pledge to come back in 20 years and do Dark Knight Returns. So they'd have something to look forward to in their old age.

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angelfromanotherpin wrote:
Judging__Eagle wrote:I want to see Frank Miller's Dark Knight and Dark Knight 2; and/or Batman Year One turned into movies.
Interestingly, before Ledger died, he and Bale had shaken hands on an informal pledge to come back in 20 years and do Dark Knight Returns. So they'd have something to look forward to in their old age.

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Saw a commercial today touting all the new sitcoms they have on Cartoon Network, hocked by a really cheap looking grunge band I'd never heard.

Or Syfy, which seems to rhyme in my head with sufi or sissy.

I'm so sad.

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Band cartoons are a staple of western animation, though.
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In short, your entire post is dismissive of not merely my intelligence, but my agency. And I don't mean agency as a player within one of your games, I mean my agency as a person. You do not want me to be informed when I make the fundamental decisions of deciding whether to join your game or buying your rules system.
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It wasn't a cartoon. It was a guy on a street with a hand-held camera and a white t-shirt and some instruments behind them that looked like they were borrowed from a local high school.

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This was on Cartoon Network?
Josh Kablack wrote:Your freedom to make rulings up on the fly is in direct conflict with my freedom to interact with an internally consistent narrative. Your freedom to run/play a game without needing to understand a complex rule system is in direct conflict with my freedom to play a character whose abilities and flaws function as I intended within that ruleset. Your freedom to add and change rules in the middle of the game is in direct conflict with my ability to understand that rules system before I decided whether or not to join your game.

In short, your entire post is dismissive of not merely my intelligence, but my agency. And I don't mean agency as a player within one of your games, I mean my agency as a person. You do not want me to be informed when I make the fundamental decisions of deciding whether to join your game or buying your rules system.
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Apparently you haven't noticed that every single new show this season (six) are all live-action kids shows the parent company could not sell to other networks.

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Crissa wrote:Or Syfy, which seems to rhyme in my head with sufi or sissy.
Yeah. What the hell is up with that? I was checking out the new series Warehouse 13 and noticed that the channel went from being Sci Fi to Syfy (pronouced "see-fee" in my mind's ear).

I get that they're trying to not be so geeky, but seriously...
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My guess is that they got tired of having their name pronounced "skiffy."
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I think pronouncing it "Siffy" is worse. It's like a pet name for Syphilis.
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Koumei wrote:I think pronouncing it "Siffy" is worse. It's like a pet name for Syphilis.
Which is funny, because, apparently, in poland Syfy either is, or is close to, the slang term for syphilis.
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I think we should agree to always call it Siffy, then.

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Well they are the STD of the SciFi genre.

And if people didn't manage to agree with me on that conclusion when they lived and breathed stale Stargate, canceled MST3K, canceled Farscape or one of a hundred other things...

Then SURELY the new Flash Gordon series proves they are a blight on all SciFi Mankind.

On it's own.

Easily.
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Well, MST3K was really on its last legs when they cancelled it. But they've been a perrenial disappointment. In the beginning, they used to have a news show that covered all the different kinds of science fiction--not only TV and movies, but books too. Ever since they cancelled that, they've been devolving. Right now, everything they do that isn't a rerun is a TV premiere of a straight-to-DVD movie.
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Absentminded_Wizard wrote:Well, MST3K was really on its last legs when they cancelled it. But they've been a perrenial disappointment. In the beginning, they used to have a news show that covered all the different kinds of science fiction--not only TV and movies, but books too. Ever since they cancelled that, they've been devolving. Right now, everything they do that isn't a rerun is a TV premiere of a usually really shitty straight-to-DVD movie with the production values of a children's lemonade stand.
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The 'far-out' sector of genres (SF and fantasy) are getting it hard.

I still loathe that 'Merlin' show with every fiber of my being. The plot is, "How can Merlin scurry behind the scenes to keep Arthur alive THIS week?"

The other week, they were being periodically attacked by a Griffin. And dear old Dad told Arthur to go out and kill it.

And Arthur made a good try at it. Except swords bounce off and spears break rather than pierce it. Uthur is told in grave tones, "The Griffin is a creature of Magic and may only be slain by Magic." I heartily disagree with that, being of a DnD view that even magical creatures bleed and won't have much to do without a functional heart and brain, but let's go on:

Uthur: Shut up! Arthur, go out and hit it harder!

Merlin's Teacher: Your Majesty, I tell you the truth

Uthur: Shut up! Just because you were right about the magic shield three weeks back...And about the witch-woman. And probably some other stuff that I didn't even know about...doesn't mean you're right now!

Later...

Merlin's Teacher: Well, okay, here's a new spell. You have to sneak around and cast GMW on Arthur's weapon when he's in stabbin' range of the Griffin. Here's the words. Spend most of the episode chanting them until you get it right, then arrive on the scene in the nick of time to make sure Arthur lands one single hit and kills the Griffin in one hit.

Merlin: Okay.

Later........

Merlin: Hey, the Griffin's dead.

Merlin's Teacher: Good lad.

Merlin: Except Arthur didn't kill him. Everyone had their visors down and I didn't know I was casting the spell on Lancelot's lance. He killed the Griffin.

Merlin's Teacher: When did the writers start getting creative?
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The Sci Fi netwok changed its name because Sci Fi is an actual word and is not defensible in court as your trademark. By giving it a non-standard spelling, they have a trademark that they can put on things and legally defend. The fact that it's Polsky for syphilis is completely irrelevant. I don't think they checked with any Slavians and wouldn't really care one way or the other.

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What's with peoples' hard-ons over trademarks, anyway?

No one likes SyFy, not even the fans of the channels. It's like when Vince insisted on calling wrestlers 'superstars'--it's a stupid name that reinforces the stereotypes of these people as phonies for the laypeople even though they work really hard and have extremely dangerous jobs.
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They want to put out more logo'd clothings and stuff.

However, that's hardly going to happen as no one now wants to be seen anywhere near their name.

And I had a Pole for a best friend through highschool. He was poor, but a serious realist. His was the first green card (it was actually green at the time!) someone let me see.

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Lago PARANOIA wrote:What's with peoples' hard-ons over trademarks, anyway? No one likes SyFy, not even the fans of the channels.
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